Lee Conan is here. Welcome to episode five. It's mindful Mondays, but we are focusing on the next

several weeks on emotionally focused couples therapy, which I love. I've been to. I had never

heard of it until about two years ago when I came to

see you. Is it really new? I mean, and I know you answered this early on, but how new is it?

Actually, it's been around for quite a while. Okay. It was developed by Dr. Sue Johnson and

Les Greenberg.

Years ago. Yeah, years ago.

And she's been doing, Sue Johnson had done a lot of the research about what is it that's

working with couples that helps them, helps them repair disconnection.

And this is how she kind of developed this model, was actually looking at

tapes of what was working in the couple's therapy that she was doing. And so this model has

actually been around for a while. Wow. It seems like it's becoming more mainstream in the past couple of

years. Yes. I think it's just as we're learning about

emotions more and we're learning about the value and the research that's being done about

emotions out there is becoming more and more relevant. I love it. Well, I'm excited about today's

episode because one of the biggest things that comes up for couples and relationships is cheating.

It seems to happen a lot. It's always in the news. We see it more and more. So, I mean,

I could have a thousand questions on this episode too. But tell me this. Can couples overcome

cheating? Absolutely. Couples can overcome cheating? Absolutely. Really?

Couples can overcome cheating, yes.

How many, what's the percentage of couples that come to you that, that infidelity is their

issue?

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