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This is an awesome podcast.

This is one of my favorite ones.

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There's a lot of whiskey, Jeff.

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Jeff McAulino.

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In a local, you know, indie scene,

you are much more likely to write a character based off an actor,

whether or not you know they're going to play that part.

But just because you know they're an option to, to play that part.

Gotcha.

No, I think that makes sense.

Yeah, no, I tend to just, my characters are, oh, you know, they're this.

They kind of come together based on the world, but the names, I do a lot of, a lot of mythology or just,

sometimes I'll do random popple. That's the one thing that I, I wish, I don't think anyone's called out any of them yet. It's upsetting. Like, I have a Zoolander reference in the first book I

wrote. Pretty sure i have a couple of

dodgeball references throughout my books so they're all based on ben stiller little little nods you

know just just just little nods to thing but like there's star track uh well one of the thing like

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