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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2417 - Ben van Kerkwyk

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.6228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 168 minutes

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Ben van Kerkwyk is an independent researcher and creator of UnchartedX.com and the UnchartedX YouTube channel, dedicated to exploring the mysteries of the past with a focus on ancient engineering, precision, and technology. www.unchartedx.com https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Stn8atEra7SMdPWyQoSLA https://rumble.com/c/UnchartedX Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Go to https://ExpressVPN.com/ROGAN to get 4 months free! Don’t miss out on all the action - Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up at https://dkng.co/rogan or with my promo code ROGAN GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY).Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $200 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 1/11/26. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 1/4/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

0:04.0

The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06.1

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

0:12.0

Ben?

0:13.1

You can see him.

0:13.9

So last time you were on, we barely scratched the surface of all the things that we wanted to talk about.

0:18.9

So immediately we're like, we've got to do another one quick.

1:44.7

Because you wanted to talk to them about the Sphinx. The S another one quick because you want to talk to about the sphinx the sphinx yes yeah we were on we got into the well the labyrinth was kind of the big labyrinth is nuts i still haven't been able to get over it the 40 meter metallic shape tick tack shape thing yeah that's in the ground like what is that Well, I hope we'll find out. I mean, I don't know. It's, it's the wheels do turn a little slowly, but the point of that was to try and drive some awareness. Maybe we'll get some sort of angel investor in there to go and look at it and solve the problem, do something. Someone needs to talk to Elon. Yeah, I'm not the guy. I talked to him too much as it is. He's too busy, but someone who can annoy him. He's solving other problems. Yeah. Someone, or maybe Bezos would like to be the first guy to get in there. Someone has to get in there. You have to figure out what that thing is. That's crazy. This might be one of the biggest mysteries in the entire human civilization record. Yeah. Who's the guy? Who's the director that went to the bottom of the off? Oh, Cameron. Cameron. I mean, he likes going places that nobody's gone before. They do a hole and get there. Maybe, maybe he can develop the thing. They just, I don't think enough people know. A lot of people know that we're listening to this podcast, but not enough people that would do something, that can do something. you know what I mean? It's like we reach a lot of knuckleheads. We reach a lot with a wide variety of people. But the percentage of people that have the resources to make something happen. They have to work something out with the Egyptian government, right? So they have to do something with those dams. Yes. Well, and you don't have to, no, I don't think it takes the dams. You would have to remediate the water on the site, at least like somehow box it out, right? You've got to drain, you'd have to drain this massive area. Or at least if you were targeted enough, you might be able to drain a smaller area to then excavate in that area. We should probably explain to people that didn't listen to the last podcast. Just a real

2:00.9

quick synopsis. So the labyrinth, it's, it's, we're talking about the great lost labyrinth of ancient

2:06.6

Egypt, which was described by figures like Herodotus, Deodor, Siculus, Pliny the Elder. Figures from

2:12.1

antiquity, these authors, and, and they've described it as being greater in magnificence than the

2:16.9

pyramids.

2:23.4

Like they had these just mind-bending descriptions of what this site was, like multiple levels,

2:26.3

3,000 rooms you would get lost in it.

2:31.4

It had giant courtyards with pillars all made from, I mean, one guy, I think it was Strabo described the roof as being a single piece of stone, which I don't think it was, but it's describing those perfect joins that you see in the real megalithic work from Egypt. So it's this giant mystery. We know it's there, and it was kind of lost to time until we found it again, basically. It was discovered, it was always known about because there were clues about

2:51.0

its location. It was always theorized to have been at this place called Hawara, which is near the Foyum

2:55.9

in Egypt. And, you know, Petri went there and dug it up, Flinders Petri in the late 1800s, early

3:01.8

1900s, and he found massive stone slabs, and he thought he was standing on its foundation,

3:06.7

like it's been quarried and taken

3:07.7

away and rather than that that he was it turns out he was most likely standing on the roof of like

3:13.0

the top layer it's like 10 meters below the ground that is so he never got nuts quite in but then

3:18.5

in the matter how expedition happened i think in the mid like 2017 or 2015 there was an expedition

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