You're listening to the Joe Gardner Show, the podcast all about gardening, where we cover

everything you need to know to grow like a pro, no experience required.

And now here's your guide, National Gardening Television Host, and the Joe Behind Joe Gardner,

Joe Lampel.

Hi everybody, it's Joe Lampel, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner

Show.

Every week, you know, I take a couple of minutes to set up the episode that you're about

to hear.

And today's no exception to that, but this episode morphed in real time as I was recording

it.

I originally intended to speak with today's guest, Acadia Tucker, on her latest book,

Tiny Victory Gardens, Growing Food Without A Yard.

I love the story of the original Victory Gardens and the idea of bringing them back with

a 21st century twist for much smaller to non-existent outdoor growing spaces and with consideration

to environmental stewardship.

That sounded very intriguing to me.

So with my outline and list of questions ready to go, I hit record and began my chat with

Acadia.

And as I always do, at the start of my podcast episodes, we take a few minutes to get

to know our guest and their backstory as we lead into the core topic for the episode.

But here's where things changed quickly.

Acadia has such a cool story coming out of college to start an organic farm on land

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