241: Pretzel Logic
#SistersInLaw
Politicon
4.8 • 9.5K Ratings
🗓️ 21 June 2025
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to lay out the legal implications of the growing political violence in the country and call upon leaders in both parties to take a strong stand against it. Then, the #Sisters examine the alarming arrests of Democratic lawmakers and investigate whether their civil rights were violated, weighing what it says about the state of our democracy. They also discuss the ABA’s lawsuit against the Trump administration and explain how it seeks to preserve the independence of the legal system, as well as break down the slew of recent actions by the courts.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to hashtag sisters-in-law with Joyce Vance, Jill Wine Banks, and me, Barbara McQuaid. |
| 0:17.3 | Kimberly Atkins store is away, but she'll be back soon. We already miss her. |
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| 0:45.8 | where this week we're going to talk about political violence, the ABA's lawsuit against the Trump |
| 0:52.4 | administration, and the latest from the Supreme Court. |
| 0:56.7 | But first, before we get into that, I just wanted to say, Joyce, are you ready for my visit to Alabama? |
| 1:02.4 | I'm coming down. |
| 1:03.9 | I am so excited. I cannot wait for you to get here. Are you ready? I'm ready. So Joyce and I are going to do a book talk Monday night. And it's near Birmingham, but it's near, what's it called home? It's Birmingham. It's like a suburb, but it's really metro Birmingham. Yeah. So we'll be together in in Birmingham Monday night. And then I'll be in Montgomery, Tuesday night. And Mobile or a place called Fair Hope near Mobile. You are so lucky on Wednesday. Yeah, I can't wait. My tour through Alabama, it can't be as hot there as it is here in the Midwest. Oh, darling, it's hot. All right. Well, I'll be ready. Jill, I had a chance to do a book talk with Jill in Chicago, you know, and when when Jill hosted me, Joyce, not to set the bar too high, but she took me for a visit, not only did she take me out to a fabulous dinner with her friends, which was great, she took me to visit the still under construction Obama Center in Chicago. I'm going to take you to the gym Monday morning. All I can say is I'm jealous that I won't |
| 2:05.2 | be with you all. I've never been to Alabama ever. Well, why don't you fly down? You know, |
| 2:10.6 | it's not a bad idea. It's a, you know, nonstop on United. Well, think about it, Jill. |
| 2:17.7 | I might have to think about that. |
| 2:19.1 | It's a thought. |
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