241. Embrace Healthy Perfectionism with Katherine Morgan Schafler #FabulousFriends

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Kelly Leveque

Nutrition, Education, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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I’m excited to welcome Katherine Morgan Schafler to the show! She's a psychotherapist, writer, speaker, and the former onsite therapist at Google. She earned her bachelor's degree in psychology at UC Berkeley before obtaining two masters from Columbia University. Additionally, she completed her postgraduate training and certification at the Association of Spirituality and Psychotherapy in NYC. Today I'm bringing Katherine on to talk about her recently published book, The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, which is designed to help you understand the different types of perfectionism, how your perfectionism can work for you, (not against you), and how to embrace it. We talk about the sociocultural issues ambitious women face, the importance of living in alignment with what you truly value, and how you can harness perfectionism in a healthy way to be your most authentic self. Having these conversations inspires me to take a beat and think about how I am being thoughtful with my days, my energy, and my time, and I’m so grateful to Katherine for sharing her professional advice with us. If you’re a fellow self-proclaimed perfectionist, make sure to take the perfectionist profile quiz on her website to understand your type, and pick up a copy of her new book, The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, to learn more. We also cover… 00:01:32 — Perfectionism Isn’t a Bad Thing Katherine’s career journey Read: The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power The sociocultural issues with languaging used to describe women Maladaptive vs adaptive perfectionism Commercial wellness labeling perfectionism as “bad” when it isn’t Why high functioning people suffer from stress and depression How to begin working through what doesn’t feel right in your life 00:19:44 — Living in Alignment with Your Values Pleasure’s role in finding what makes you happy The difference between immediate gratification and pleasure The connection between perfectionism and happiness Two questions Katherine encourages ambitious, high-achieving women to ask themselves Breaking the illusion of control 00:32:06 — How to Unleash Your Perfectionism in a Healthy Way The different types of perfectionism and each one’s advantages and liabilities Take the perfectionist profile quiz: perfectionistsguide.com/quiz What types of perfectionists Kelly and Katherine are Dr. Kristin Neff's framework: 3 skills for responding to yourself compassionately Reframing the idea of productivity Manage Your Energy, Not Your Time by Tony Schwartz and Catherine McCarthy Resources: Website: perfectionistsguide.com Read: The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power by Katherine Morgan Schafler Take the quiz: perfectionistsguide.com/quiz Instagram: @katherinemorganschafler LinkedIn: Katherine Morgan Schafler Connect with Kelly: kellyleveque.com Instagram: @bewellbykelly Facebook: www.facebook.com/bewellbykelly Be Well By Kelly is produced by Crate Media. Mentioned in this episode: BWBK Protein Powder | Get $10 off your order with PODCAST10 at bewellbykelly.com. Athletic Greens AG1 | Get 1 FREE year of Vitamin D immune support along with 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase at drinkAG1.com/BEWELL.

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0:00.0	I want to take a break from the podcast right now and I want to give you a gift.
0:04.8	I don't want to do that to thank you for being a listener.
0:07.9	I put my heart and soul into this podcast.
0:09.8	I love interviewing today's experts, researchers, MDs, psychologists, sleep trainers.
0:17.7	You name it.
0:18.7	I hope you feel inspired to take care of yourselves and your families.
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