Welcome to the Hustle Samely Podcast, a show inviting you to live a peacefully productive life.

I'm your host, Jess Massey, a peaceful productivity coach and planner-creator.

My mission is to share mindset shifts and peaceful productivity tips

that help people with really full lives

go from running on fumes to living with intention in every season.

You're in the right place if you want to design a life that reflects your actual priorities

so you can stop the constant hustle and pursue your goals while prioritizing your well-being.

Now take a deep breath and let's learn how to hustle sanely.

Hello, hello, welcome back to the show. It is the fourth Tuesday of the month, which means that I am not alone. And today I've got not one but two guests on with me and this is an episode that is perfect as we head into fall in the holiday season

Jen and Jill are co-host of the top-rated frugal Friends podcast with over 400 episodes and 6 million

downloads. Frugal Friends is changing the way the world thinks about frugality.

Jen uses her background in financial journalism to seek topics that help people overcome

impulse spending and reach their financial goals. Jill is a licensed clinical social worker

who enjoys exploring the connections between our money behaviors and mental health.

Together they're helping people become better stewards of their money, time, space, and natural resources.

I get asked pretty often to share tips on budgeting and

listen y'all. You know that I like to keep it real. That's just not my area of

expertise. So when Jen and Jill said they wanted to come on the show, it was an immediate yes for me.

So I hope you enjoy my conversation with Jen and Jill.

All right, Jen and Jill, I am so excited to have you guys on today

because believe it or not, even though what I do

is peaceful productivity, for some reason,

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