#2403 - Andrew Gallimore

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

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4.6 • 228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 157 minutes

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Andrew Gallimore, PhD, is a chemical pharmacologist and neurobiologist. He is one of the world’s leading experts on psychedelics and the author of several books, including his most recent, “Death by Astonishment: Confronting the Mystery of the World’s Strangest Drug.” www.buildingalienworlds.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/alieninsecthttps://read.macmillan.com/lp/death-by-astonishment-9781250357755/ Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://squarespace.com/ROGAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
0:04.0	The Joe Rogan Experience.
0:06.1	Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
0:12.2	How are you?
0:15.8	Splendid.
0:16.6	How the devil are you, sir?
0:18.1	I think it's the first time anyone's answered Splend, when I ask him, how you doing? So, tell me about your book, man. Let me see the cover of it, first of all. Death by astonishment, which is the famous Terrence McKenna quote, right? Yes, he was asked. The only thing you have to fear is death by astonishment exactly yeah you know the first
0:38.6	time i did DMT i literally heard his words do not give in to astonishment i literally heard
0:45.5	those words it's almost like whatever's over there wanted me to hear that so i could like sink in
0:54.0	or whatever because i had already heard it before
0:56.5	you know like so they wanted to say it to me as well it was very weird yeah it's
1:01.2	sage advice I think because oh it's the only way because if you freak out well
1:06.0	it's like that's a good thing it's good advice in most of life, don't give in to the freak out. Yeah, yeah.
1:14.4	Confronting the mystery of the world's strangest drug. How did you get involved in this?
1:18.6	DMT? Yes. Oh. So you have to go back to my teenage years, really. So, I mean, I first heard about
1:27.4	DMT through Terrence McKenna, a friend.
1:30.3	Like most of us.
1:31.3	Yeah, like most of us.
1:32.3	Probably.
1:33.3	But this was like, this was during like the dawn of the internet.
1:37.3	Right.
1:38.3	Long before you were a scientist.
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