They form a writhing mass of eyeballs and flesh and hair that's like roiling and churning.

That's awesome. Hello, welcome to Guide to the the unknown I'm Kristen and I'm her little brother

William and this week we are talking about the ring franchise from conception

books to all these movies. From conception to death.

Yes.

Basically, I mean, is it dead?

It seems like it's still continuing, I have to say.

I'm sort of joking around, but it does feel like something's missing now

and maybe it's, know it'll it'll continue

on in some form it's largely only being carried on by films in Japan right what I

can tell right but it seems like it's still pretty popular over there. I mean I feel like

Siddako slash Samara is such an icon now that they're just a mainstay of horror.

Like isn't there always somebody who's dressed like Siddako

at Hollywood Horror Nights in Universal?

Probably.

Probably like at all times.

I do agree with you that I think that like this is an iconic, iconic franchise built largely off of just a fun concept, you know, and then the individual stories themselves seem to be largely, forget hit or miss, they seem like they're largely miss that's my impression I don't know I was to say a lot I don't know anything about the sequels and stuff yeah

but really people really liked the first one and then it seems like they've

been there have been diminishing returns. I think this is a good example. There's

something that like I'm always fascinated by looking at a franchise.

And some franchises start real messy,

and then they figure it out as they go along.

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