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The Talk Show With John Gruber

240: ‘Drastically Shakier’ With Ben Thompson

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2019

⏱️ 168 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Ben Thompson returns to the show. Topics include Apple's horrible no good very bad earnings warning, the Chinese market, Apple's push toward services for revenue growth, antitrust issues regarding the App Store, and more.

Transcript

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wouldn't have any to talk about.

0:01.3

We don't. Nothing to talk about. I am on here slowly for self-promotion,

0:04.8

because I want to tell people that next opponent started again.

0:09.2

What's your Alex Ponent dot FM?

0:10.9

Yeah, but I, you know, I was it.

0:12.7

We were to hate this and I like, why not just leave it in your podcast,

0:15.5

but no people like to eat it. So now I have to tell people.

0:21.6

Oh my God, where do we start?

0:23.2

We got we can't screw around. I don't think can we?

0:26.9

I had there's always there's always room for screwing around.

0:28.9

It's been eight months because the last time you even tell on Skype,

0:31.5

because it says the last time you call someone on Skype and it was it was eight months ago.

0:35.2

Wow, that is a long time. That's unusually long, especially.

0:39.1

I know. So many I've lost my 10s to have the same people over and over again.

0:43.4

I've lost my title to to bolts, well, pretty significantly at this point.

0:47.6

Well, bolts have the backed backer. I mean, that stopped going back.

0:50.2

That was the multi-st.

0:53.1

The high-freight I had to talk. I talked about that on the show, right?

0:56.2

I don't remember.

0:58.4

It was like I was like, I have an emulter on forever. I'll have emulter on.

1:01.0

And then next week it was like an emergency like needed to do a show.

1:05.0

And like one, two, three, four people after another couldn't do it when I could do it.

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