24. What's Essential: An Essential Intervention with Anika
The Greg McKeown Podcast
Greg McKeown
4.9 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 9 November 2020
⏱️ 33 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Why don't you tell me your name and introduce yourself? |
| 0:04.4 | Gosh, I don't even know where to start. I am a German who immigrated to America, |
| 0:09.2 | has reverse immigrated back to Germany. I am a traveler, very much so, but I'm stuck and can travel |
| 0:14.8 | as, of course, none of us can, which was a big reason that we re-immigrated back to Germany |
| 0:20.7 | to travel, and here we are. You came back, when did you go back to Germany? |
| 0:25.4 | It was two and a half years ago. So you went there partially to travel, |
| 0:29.5 | as you say. Yes. You're feeling some cabin fever. Very much. I mean, I'm not alone in this. I'm sure. |
| 0:37.2 | You're absolutely right. And tell me a little bit. Just give me the context. You emailed me. |
| 0:46.9 | Tell me your story. What did you share in that email? Yeah, so I, oh, I think I'll start at the |
| 0:52.4 | beginning. I think most of my adult life, I've been very identified with my career as sort of |
| 0:57.8 | the source of my value that I define. And somewhere a few years ago, let's say four, maybe three |
| 1:05.4 | years ago, I was in a PhD program, and fairly unhappy and very obsessed with my career. I think |
| 1:12.9 | that's pretty normal for PhD students. I mean, I knew something wasn't right. I read your book and |
| 1:17.6 | really clarified for me that what wasn't right is that I wasn't living according to my values. |
| 1:22.9 | I had these dreams I've had for a really long time. I wanted to become a mother. |
| 1:27.3 | I moved to the US if my parents and that's 12. I wanted to move back to Europe. I wanted to travel. |
| 1:33.3 | I was always a big passion for me in Europe, especially. But I wasn't doing any of those things, |
| 1:38.8 | because I kept prioritizing my career. I made some really big changes at the time. I |
| 1:44.3 | shortly thereafter, we moved to Paris for six months, which was an unusual move for a PhD student |
| 1:49.8 | and took me out of my program for a little bit. And then, kind back to the US to finish my program |
| 1:54.9 | and get my PhD a year later, moved to Germany for a postdoc, which was on paper looks like a good |
| 2:01.9 | decision. And I'm sure, I mean, I know on hindsight, it was a very good decision. But it was also me |
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