24. Transcestors, A Look at Art Beyond the Binary (Live from the DMA)
History is Gay
Leigh Pfeffer
4.6 • 536 Ratings
🗓️ 22 July 2019
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Leigh and Gretchen are back from hiatus with an extra special episode! Recorded live at the Dallas Museum of Art on June 21st as part of the museum's Pride events, your friendly neighborhood queer history nerds sat down to chat about gender diversity in art and mythology. Come take a tour through Mesopotamian, Hindu, and Norse mythology, then dive into two modern artists who questioned and transcended gender norms in their lives and art: Anton Prinner and Frida Kahlo. So pull up a chair and hang out with a couple of gayvenclaws to, retroactively, celebrate pride and art beyond the binary!
Outline
0:00 – Introduction
8:02 – Gender Diversity in Mythology: Inanna/Ishtar
16:19 – Gender Diversity in Mythology: Hapi
23:24 – Gender Diversity in Mythology: Hindu gods
30:32 – Gender Diversity in Mythology: Loki
36:43 – Anton Prinner
46:12 – Frida Kahlo
52:44 – How Gay Were They?
53:40 – Closing and Where to Find us Online
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, welcome back. Yay. Hello. Yes, we are back in your earholes. History is gay, is back from hiatus. Hello. We. Back again. We did. We missed you. Thank you so much for your understanding and your patience and your pet photos that you |
| 0:28.3 | have sent us through our hiatus. |
| 0:31.0 | And thank you for just allowing us to take a breather and work on life things and just |
| 0:37.0 | be humans that can take a vacation, which is |
| 0:40.1 | nice, so that we can come back stronger and more excited than ever and bring you more fun |
| 0:45.2 | things without being like, frazzled humans. |
| 0:50.3 | I can't guarantee that we're not going to continue to be frazzled humans, but like... |
| 0:55.2 | Yeah, I mean, it will allow us to be less frazzled humans, hopefully. |
| 0:59.9 | I would assume, yeah. |
| 1:02.4 | Life is always pretty crazy, and this has been quite the year for both of us, so I'm not imagining it's going to just like immediately magically get better, |
| 1:11.2 | but now we can at least have a little bit more of a rest and recuperated and, yeah, |
| 1:18.0 | not doing research papers for like six weeks. It's nice. |
| 1:25.0 | Yes. Yeah, sorry, we came back a little bit later than anticipated, but we still had a couple of things to still get through. |
| 1:33.3 | But we are back now with a really fun episode that we got to do on our break. |
| 1:40.3 | Gretchen, you should tell the lovely people at home what they're about to listen to. |
| 1:45.2 | The last episode that we did when we were at our con family, TGIFM slash, we received an email, |
| 1:52.3 | and we were invited by the Dallas Museum of Art to come do a live podcast taping during their like special pride block. |
| 2:03.5 | So June 21st, so just about a month ago, we were flown down to Dallas and stayed in a nice hotel and recorded a live podcast in front of a room of mostly strangers, which was pretty awesome. |
| 2:21.2 | Yeah. |
| 2:22.2 | Yes. |
| 2:23.0 | With our like friends in the front row, which was delightful, we got to see friends in Dallas. |
| 2:27.3 | And it was just a really, really good time. |
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