Hello, everybody, on today's Glamour podcast, I'm joined by Glammer's Leanne Bailey,

an award-winning author, Sophie Kinsella, and we are going to sort out so many life problems

for you that you're going to know that everything is, hey, okay.

Hello, Glamour listeners, it's so great for you to join us again for another edition of

Glamour, Hey, It's Okay. today. I am joined by Glammer's

content editor. We're so modern. We have a content editor. Leanne Bailey, hello. Hello. Hi.

Another little podcast version. I like to break them all in. And join today also the award-winning

author, Sophie Cansella. Hello. Thank you for joining us. It's such a treat. Do you know

what? I was very

reassured because I'd lost count of how many books you have written and then we've just

discovered that you have actually lost count. Yeah. Did you, did you have the, we got the number.

We reckon it's 23. Yeah. We've done an audit. And the new book,

My Not So Perfect Life is that 24? Is that 23?

I reckon that's 23, but now you're putting me on the spot. It's a test. Everything in life is a test.

That's right. It's all about the numbers. Yeah know, it was a real joy to write this book because it's got so much in it that I wanted to say about, about modern life, about social media, about trying to be perfect.

Because that's the thing, it's very themed around that, that FOMO feeling that we all have. We all have that. Yeah. Well, I think it's in us all and it's probably always been there, but modern life sort of exacerbates it because we're just, we have images thrust at us all the time of other people's lives.

And we measure ourselves more than I think we did.

And we look at our lives and we judge them.

You know, we watch interiors programs and they

like well that has to go and that has to go and so we look at our own flat and thinks oh no it's so

interesting because i know there's you know there's often the charge that beautiful uh models in

magazines make people feel miserable but i'm telling you it's people's beautiful homes in interiors

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