I guess this week is the simply wonderful Ruby Wax. And for somebody who's written extensively

on her own depression and mental health issues,

I was delighted to hear that she's

a remarkably good f in the lockdown. So for two years I've been really happy.

Is that bad?

No, that's what, that's all I want for you.

Why is that bad? No, I know what, that's all I want for you. Why is that bad?

No, I know, because people like bad news.

I don't like bad news. If you tell me you're happy, that makes me happy.

Maybe I'm, maybe I'm atypical.

I only want people I care about to be happy. In fact, I want people I don't even care about to be happy in fact I want people I don't even care

about to be happy it's but what interest I think it's very pertinent at the

moment what other people do what other countries, because there seems to be this glib

sense of English exceptionalism at the moment, which means even though Germany are probably

doing things better, we won't copy them. And yet your book's all about being you know one world a global view

and saying why not cherry pick things from other places yeah but they already have cherry

picked that's what makes me that's why you know there's a little glow in my eye because leave aside

Finland but in just an example there's a couple schools called and I went to more than this

reach to disadvantaged neighborhoods I mean the highest crime rate, free schooling, state schooling, and the teachers take these kids that could be potentially sociopaths, you know, their brains are frozen with trauma and they teach them from their five to 11 years old. They teach them empathy and they teach these kids, you know, they defrost them. They have to go around in little circles and say what they appreciate about everybody and one kid turned to me and said, I just love that you care about enough. They don't know who I am care about us enough to care.

Then they, the teachers say, you know,

there's no such thing as a stupid question,

which I would have flourished.

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