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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

24 | Kip Thorne on Gravitational Waves, Time Travel, and Interstellar

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll

Physics, Science

4.74.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2018

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

I remember vividly hosting a colloquium speaker, about fifteen years ago, who talked about the LIGO gravitational-wave observatory, which had just started taking data. Comparing where they were to where they needed to get to in terms of sensitivity, the mumblings in the audience after the talk were clear: "They'll never make it." Of course we now know that they did, and the 2016 announcement of the detection of gravitational waves led to a 2017 Nobel Prize for Rainer Weiss, Kip Thorne, and Barry Barish. So it's a great pleasure to have Kip Thorne himself as a guest on the podcast. Kip tells us a bit about he LIGO story, and offers some strong opinions about the Nobel Prize. But he's had a long and colorful career, so we also talk about whether it's possible to travel backward in time through a wormhole, and what his future movie plans are in the wake of the success of Interstellar. Kip Thorne received his Ph.D. in physics from Princeton University, and is now the Richard Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics (Emeritus) at Caltech. Recognized as one of the world's leading researchers in general relativity, he has done important work on gravitational waves, black holes, wormholes, and relativistic stars. His role in helping found and guide the LIGO experiment was recognized with the Nobel Prize in 2017. He is the author or co-author of numerous books, including a famously weighty textbook, Gravitation. He was executive producer of the 2014 film Interstellar, which was based on an initial concept by him and Lynda Obst. He's been awarded too many prizes to list here, and has also been involved in a number of famous bets. Caltech page Wikipedia page Nobel Prize citation Nobel Lecture Amazon.com author page Internet Movie Database page

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the Minescape Podcast.

0:02.8

I'm your host Sean Carroll, and I'm sure that most of the listeners remember back just

0:07.5

February 2016, two and a half years ago I guess by now, when scientists announced the

0:13.0

first direct detection of gravitational waves from elsewhere in the universe, the LIGO

0:19.1

Observatory, the laser, interferometric gravitational wave observatory, and now so they had seen

0:24.5

these signals of black holes 30 times the mass of the sun spiraling into each other a billion

0:30.9

years ago, giving off gravitational waves and we had finally detected them.

0:35.5

They were actually detected back in September of 2015 and then announced in February 2016.

0:41.5

And enormous excitement because of this.

0:43.4

I mean it's a truly groundbreaking discovery even though we've been anticipating it for years

0:47.3

and years.

0:48.3

It's one of those things which will go down in the textbooks and in the history books

0:51.7

as a real cornerstone of how we think about the universe.

0:55.4

What is less clear is the enormous amount of not only work but perseverance that went

1:00.6

into this discovery.

1:02.0

It's always a lot of work to do an enormous experiment or observation in physics or astronomy.

1:08.1

If you discover the Higgs boson, you have to build a large Hadron collider and that takes

1:12.4

$10 million in many many years and thousands of people working.

1:16.7

The difference being that I don't want it in any way disparaged the people who found

1:20.8

the Higgs boson.

1:21.8

I did write a book about them and I admire them enormously.

1:24.6

But they kind of knew it was there and how to find it.

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