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I don't know why this happens. No, I do. I'm trying to act like I don't. Okay, but you do. You know exactly why. Whatever it is, you know exactly why it happens. I was trying to be all like, oh, shucks. But I know what's going on. What do I know? I'll tell you what I know. No, I think it's theology. Okay. I think it gets back to this thing where we're

not everybody, but there's this real theological understanding of what life with God is.

Like philosophical precepts. Like God is X. Are you saying there's a theological understanding or are you qualifying as a misunderstanding?

Well, it's a theological understanding that is a misunderstanding.

Yes.

Okay.

That's, yeah, you hit it with misunderstanding.

All right.

Well, but the idea that God is God and therefore he's sovereign,, everything that happens he was already going to do.

Hmm, okay.

So this is very, like, widely held idea, at least on, like, yeah, I don't want to get too specific about it.

But it is, it doesn't jive with scripture. It just doesn't jive. I think for you,

it's natural because it's your background. Yeah. Coming from, I'm not from a Calvinist background,

but somewhere in there, close-ish or something. I don't know. Adjacent to God. Yeah. And I run

into this all the time with people now which is that like okay god is

god therefore and like therefore really there's it subtracts from the actual relationship i was

going to ask you so in that understanding what is the relationship then i don't understand

and but then we get down to well it's it's more about you know you but you've What is the relationship then? I don't understand. Oh, okay.

But then we get down to, well, it's more about, you believe this and then that doctrine and this doctrine and that doctrine and then you get to go to heaven when you die because of the atonement.

Okay.

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