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Clack the Tap and Brothers, and we're broadcasting this week from the Center for Strategic

Movements here at Card Talk Plaza. Strategic Movements. Yes, yes. What pretell does that mean?

Well, I mean, I didn't really want to talk about this, but Doug insisted. Yeah, I thought it was

important that I, uh, talk about what? I beat the chess master. Holy cow, you beat the chess master.

My brother, well, first of all, he's got this rotten Apple computer, but don't get me

stuck on that. That's right. And Alex, his son actually uses it more than anybody, but he bought

this chess program and the chess program has been beaten his butt a whole weeks. Everything he does,

it says, you want to resign now? Is that it? No, it's worse than that. You want to resign now?

Stupid. I mean, it is humiliated to get beaten. It is humiliated. One game after another,

after another, after another. I only played one game. I lost. You don't know that you lost,

you lose. You were what? What? You humiliated. I was humiliated in front of everybody, I might have

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