I think you can't underestimate the value of knowing your numbers.

And if you can get to that point and slow down enough on the trade side that you start tracking those things.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast,

our regular discussion with building industry professionals.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb.

I'm joined by Brian Uler, Vice President of Pioneer Builders,

and producer Jeff Rose.

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Brian, thank you so much for agreeing to be on the show.

Yeah, I'm happy to be here.

So for those of you listening, this is the second version of the Pro Talk podcast that we're doing,

where we talk to industry pros.

And hopefully you get

better advice than you would get from the ordinary podcast team. So thanks to Brian for being here.

And thanks to all of you for listening. Oh, man. So we were just talking before we started recording.

And let's start off, Brian, can you tell us a little bit about your company's business, what you guys do, and who works there, and when it started?

Sure.

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