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The Rest Is Money

238. How to prepare the UK workforce when 3 million jobs are at risk

The Rest Is Money

Goalhanger

Politics, Business, News

3.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

How much should school education be about workplace skills and how much about knowledge? Should businesses be more involved in education? Is the assessment of education all wrong?  And should learning and qualifications be encouraged at all ages?  With up to 3 million UK jobs at risk over the next decade according to the National Foundation for Educational Research, Steph talks to their CEO Carole Willis, alongside Will Bridgman MD of engineering firm Warren Services who have built a skills pipeline in their local community and Amjad Ali who helps run 21 schools as part of Chiltern Learning Trust. Email: the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:08.0

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0:10.0

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0:13.0

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0:18.0

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0:46.0

Now, one of the big things we love talking about on this podcast is skills, the future of work.

0:52.6

How is AI going to change things for our workforce and how do we

0:56.9

make sure we don't leave people behind and all that? You hear Robert and I talk a lot about

1:01.3

education and the importance of it and whether, you know, the schools are doing the right stuff

1:06.2

to get people trained in the things we need for the future world of work. So today, that's what we're going to focus on.

1:14.2

I've got some excellent guests to chat through this who come from different walks of life.

1:18.7

It's off the back of a report that's just come out from the National Foundation for Educational Research.

1:24.5

Now, they're an independent not-for-profit organisation who are really focused on, you know, research and analysis to help improve research. Now, they're an independent not-for-profit organisation who are really focused

1:28.7

on, you know, research and analysis to help improve outcomes for young people. They've got this

1:33.7

new skills imperative report that's come out. It's five years of work and one of the big headlines

1:38.6

from it is that up to three million UK jobs are at risk over the next decade.

1:44.2

So we have the CEO from the National Foundation for Educational Research here, Carol Willis.

1:49.3

Hello, Carol.

1:50.0

Hello. Thank you for joining us.

1:51.5

Carol, I know you've held lots of different roles in your career.

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