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The Symbolic World

238 - How Christ Saves His Father From the Underworld

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2022

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

This video is a response to Jordan Peterson’s analysis of Pinocchio and the notion of saving your father from the underworld. How does this idea fit into Christianity? At first it seems that Christ’s story flips the pattern, where He is saved by the underworld by His Father, but is there more to it? Original video: https://youtu.be/K3eF7rQjMTo - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/

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0:00.0

So if you've watched Jordan Peterson videos, you have most definitely heard him talk about the Pinocchio story.

0:06.9

And usually Jordan tells a very touching version of that story where he encourages people to go down into the belly of the whale to save their dead father.

0:17.3

And he sees this as an image of how the father represents the past, the father represents

0:23.0

that which came before you.

0:25.1

And in some ways, it is always dead.

0:28.2

And we need the son.

0:30.3

We need an actualizing principle, which goes back into the past or back into that

0:36.1

which has been given to us and makes it live again,

0:39.4

makes it adapts it to the current situation. And Jordan usually uses the image of the story of

0:47.3

Osiris and Horace with ISIS and set as kind of the mythological backdrop for this story. But I've also noticed that

0:56.6

a few times I've seen Jordan's struggle to understand how this story gives with the story of the

1:02.8

death and resurrection of Christ. He seems to see the story of the death and resurrection of Christ

1:07.7

as a kind of flip inversion of that, where it is the father that

1:11.2

resurrects the son, and I've seen him struggle to kind of understand that. So I thought,

1:15.4

I've been thinking for years to make this video, but for some reason I'm just doing it now.

1:19.6

So I thought we would look at the manner in which Christ saves his father from the underworld,

1:25.2

how ultimately not only he does that, but it is what we could call

1:29.4

the ultimate version of that story.

1:32.2

And it also restores the notion, the difference between the fallen father and the true

1:38.4

father or the father that is the source of all things.

1:52.7

Okay. that is the source of all things. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So the manner in which Jordan caught onto this story, I think is very powerful.

2:12.6

And he is able to gather a lot of insight from his interpretation of the myth of Osiris and Horace

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