Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

Hello everyone, looking back to the show. Got a great episode for you today. I'm speaking with

Air Force Retired Brigadier General Robert Spalding,

brought his new book War Without Rules, China's Playbook for Global Domination.

This book is all about General Spalding's interpretation of a famous book from the late 1990s,

called Unrestricted Warfare, a strategy document written by two people's liberation army officers.

That really catalogued how they thought China should approach challenging the US for

a gemini in the ancient Pacific region. This has huge implications, especially given the fact that

General Spalding argues the strategy they outlined was entirely followed and is going to play out

in a possible conflict with Taiwan and other questions that come down to the nature of the US

China relationship, especially after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. So as General Spalding points

out, Unrestricted Warfare is actually pretty dense. So it's great to get a retired Air Force

General to walk you through the ideas that once again, whether you are a China hawk, whether you

are a China dove, is going to be deeply important because once again, this is the book which is guiding

a strategy that one has to come up with an answer to regardless of whether you are hawkish or

dovish. Of course, quick notes for we get into this episode. This is part of our expanded

coverage that we are doing due to our supercast subscription. I have another episode coming out

tomorrow, which is going to be all about the student loan question, which with the author named

Josh Mitchell, who's at the Wall Street Journal, he's written a great book about student loans.

It's called The Debt Trap. So we're going to really respond to a lot of the discussion episode

that Saga and I did around the student loan question. We got so much listener response to that.

So we're super curious of people who responded that episode. Of course, Saga and I are recording a

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