You're listening to the Joe Gardner Show, the podcast all about gardening, where we cover

everything you need to know to grow like a pro, no experience required.

And now here's your guide, National Gardening Television Host, and the Joe Behind Joe Gardner,

Joe Lample.

Hi everybody, it's Joe Lample, the Joe Behind Joe Gardner, and welcome to the Joe Gardner

Show.

We've really been making the most of our time together lately to bring you guests

on the show that can help us think differently about how we garden.

To do so in a way that's more ecological, and I am so glad people are getting the message

from many sources regarding simple and tangible ways that we can be more environmentally

responsible in the stewardship of whatever space we're tending to under our watch.

Things like leaving the leaves and fall for overwintering insects and natural mulch to

protect the soil, and holding off on clearing out that duff layer under our plants and shrubs,

because we now know so much more about how many beneficial creatures use that material

around and under those plants is their overwintering home.

It feels good to have a really great reason to give ourselves permission to relax a bit

during that traditional fall cleanup time, and the reward is in seeing our gardens come

to life even more than ever, because we're becoming more informed and observant gardeners.

And I love that.

Well, today we continue on that because I'm speaking with English garden designer and

author Matt Reese Warren.

He wrote a book titled The Ecological Gardener, How to Create Beauty and Biodiversity from

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