What's up ladies and gentlemen boys and girls around the world I'd like to welcome you back to the real talk with Zuby podcast on today's episode

We have got on a fellow podcaster and a great intellectual thinker. This is Jalisa Danielle host of the side effect podcast. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm excited

I've been waiting for this for like some months now. So I'm happy here. Awesome. It's long overdue. Jalisa for people who are not familiar with who you are please tell them a little bit about you.

Yes, I am a podcaster. I just started doing this about a year and a half ago started during COVID when I started becoming a lot more vocal. So I've been podcasting. I am an education. And yeah, you'll see me. You'll see my tweets going crazy now because I got a lot of stuff to say.

You've got a lot to say. Have you always been like that? Tell me a bit more about your story. I think I have been well in school and high school like I was very shy. I didn't really say much, but as I started you know can I started getting into the music industry and you know realizing like it was like a big grind and not that I was trying to be an artist or anything but just being in that industry.

You have to like open your mouth if you want opportunities, if you want to go places, if you want to work. So I just started becoming more vocal as far as that, but as far as like my opinion and being a little bit more aggressive of I guess how people see that just started maybe like two years ago.

I'm starting to know my mouth. COVID. Yeah, a lot of time to sit and think.

And the more crazy things I saw, I had to say something because nobody else would.

So where are you from? You're from, are you originally from Texas? I was born in Connecticut. My parents are retired military. So we lived in Connecticut. We lived in Cuba.

And then we moved here. And so I've been here pretty much most of my life here in Houston.

Got it. And a couple of years ago, so 2020, the pandemic slash pandemic slash scam,

dynamic hits. And I don't know why everyone says hits hits is the term I've noticed people. I just I just used it myself.

And not just America, but the world is a whole suddenly is in a very weird place. People are panicking. People are fearful. People are freaking out.

I know from the very beginning, it seems like you were in the very, very small minority of people who was like, wait, hang on something here isn't right. What was it initially that struck you as something not being quite what the narrative. They were blaming was.

I've always been skeptical. I don't trust anyone anything at the news because I did go to school for communications. So we learned television, my degrees and PR. I've learned how people present themselves to look a certain way. The words that they got to use. So I took everything. I was like, I don't know. But I was actually supposed to go to China in March of 2020.

And I had a flight scheduled for Shanghai. And when all that stuff started happening, I was like, oh, well, just, you know, I'll still go.

But when I started to see more things, I actually ended up texting my parents and my my sister. I was like, I think this whole thing. This was January 2020. I was like, I think this whole thing that's happening is

going to be so everybody can get the shot. And I was just like, yeah, whatever. And I'm like, no, I really think just because of the stuff I used to watch, I don't know, you know, Jesse Ventura.

He had a show like years ago that was like about conspiracies and stuff. And I always would watch it. And then I was like, on all the movies and everything just started coming together. And I was like, I don't think this is real. And so I ended up going anyways to Europe. And then that week, I was in London.

Paris and London. And that's when Trump got on TV and was like, no one or no one else can come in from Europe. And then everyone's like, get home right now. It's so serious. And I was like, no, it's not.

I'm going to enjoy my vacation.

It was, it was crazy. But I can't believe like actually happened.

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