236: Eliot Ness Vs. Al Capone w/ A. Brad Schwartz - A True Crime History Podcast

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2022

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Summary

Throughout the 1920s Chicago was a cesspool of corruption and violence, due in large part to the obscene amounts of money being made through the illegal manufacture, transportation and sale of alcohol. Much of the business was being done by The Outfit, led by the charming and publicity hungry Al Capone, who viciously knocked off his competitors at the slightest provocation.

To combat The Outfit, the federal government chose Eliot Ness, a reserved but ambitious twenty-seven-year-old Prohibition agent to lead his "Untouchables" against Al Capone's criminal empire. Together they gathered important evidence to cripple Capone's lucrative booze business.

My guest is A. Brad Schwartz, who along with co-author Max Allan Collins wrote the critically acclaimed "Scarface and the Untouchable: Al Capone, Eliot Ness, and the Battle for Chicago". He talks about how Eliot Ness and Al Capone climbed the ranks of their respective professions, their Chicago careers ultimately culminating with the trial and imprisonment of Capone. He also breaks some long-standing myths about Eliot Ness and his true role in Capone's demise as a gangland boss.

More information about the authors can be found here:

https://abradschwartz.com/ and http://maxallancollins.com/blog/

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0:00.0	Away in the shuttle, take a break in your car
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1:01.6	On this episode of Most Notorious, Prohibition Agent Elliott Ness and his Untouchables Battle L-Cupone
1:09.6	for the Soul of Chicago
1:12.1	And then in beginning in March they start this campaign of rating their first raid is a
1:18.3	mixed success where they're able to locate a brewery but they're not able to make any
1:22.1	arrests because they end up having to back their truck
1:25.7	that they brought with them through the doors that are locked and they couldn't
1:30.7	batter their way through as easily as they expected
1:34.2	So after that Ness has a couple of his men design a truck with a steel bumper on the front end of it
1:40.4	Not a snowplow like you saw in the movie but a bumper that can just drive straight through
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