236. Andre Norman — Turning Poverty and Prison into a Purpose-Driven Life [Encore Edition]

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0 • 538 Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2024

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Andre Norman's life journey has been nothing short of incredible. From a past marked by incarceration to his subsequent transformation into a Harvard fellow, his story is both inspiring and extraordinary. Today, his mission centers around eradicating mass incarceration in all its various manifestations. In this exceptional episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Andre and Michael Mogill candidly discuss: The harsh realities of life within the confines of a prison The mindset crucial for breaking free from incarceration and building a purposeful existence The voyage toward recovery at both an individual and societal level ---- Show Notes: 05:29 – Everyone deserves a chance. 08:30 – Prisoners run the prisons. Guards just work there. 12:32 – Achieving shot-caller status. 28:11 – Headlines sell fear. 29:58 – Surviving maximum security. 35:45 – Making smarter choices. ---- Links & Resources Massachusetts Michael Brown, Jr. Trayvon Martin Tamir Rice Sandra Bland George Floyd Harvard The Penitentiary System ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #216 Richard Montañez – Conquer Fear, Create Opportunity, and Take Charge of Your Destiny #168 Ryan Holiday – The Obstacle Is The Way #196 AMMA – The Nine Sources of Advantage

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0:00.0	I've never signed up for anything and say I want to be number two.
0:04.9	That's not an American culture where you sign up and want to be third place.
0:08.2	The goal is to win.
0:09.7	The toughest, most feared down the planet is a gang leader who runs the entire prison system.
0:14.9	I want to be the top of the list.
0:16.2	And I went on that quest.
0:17.7	And I made it from number 20,000 to number three.
0:20.5	Then I had an opportunity to become
0:22.2	number one. That's Andre Norman, bestselling author of Ambassador of Hope. It came clear that I was
0:29.5	about to become the king of nowhere, and I didn't want to be the king of nowhere. So I backed up,
0:33.8	I went to myself. I said, well, if I can't be a psychopath, what's the point of being in prison?
0:38.6	It didn't make sense.
0:39.7	Prison always made sense to me.
0:41.5	That's why I was 100% all in, because I could rationalize it in my brain that this makes sense.
0:46.0	I got this goal of being the number one guy.
0:48.2	That goal is now gone.
0:59.9	I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.
1:02.5	I've built my business through practice, not theory.
1:08.0	Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,
1:11.4	earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating
1:15.3	massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and
1:19.3	committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with
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