Welcome back to we can do hard things. Yes, this is Abby. Today, we are re-airing one

of my favorite of all time. We can do hard things episodes. It is episode 167. Tracey

Ellis Ross, how to make peace in your own head this episode aired on January 10th. First

of all, I think that famous people aren't that interesting because of their fame. And also,

I like to get a sense if they're real or if they're just performing. And Tracey Ellis Ross

is exactly who she is. She's wonderful. She's kind. And this episode and the conversation

we had, it was one of my favorites for a lot of reasons. But I think it clearly demonstrates

the human that she is and the work that she's done. To me, why I felt so compelled by her

was because she seems to me like somebody who has done work in her life. And as figured

out a way to move through her life, even a wildlife, like it feels like she lives a very

in the spotlight life. And I thought that her way and the story she told, I mean, the

fact that after big events, she's already planning her self-care, her radical idea of

self-care for post-events. That was life-changing for us. Listen to this episode. It's beautiful.

I love Tracey Ellis Ross and enjoy.

And I continue to believe that I'm the one for me.

Hi, hi, Tracey Ellis Ross. You all welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. I'm going to really rush

through the intro because today we have one of my favorite people. Is that not true? It is

on this entire planet. Tracey Ellis Ross is an award-winning actress and producer best known

for her roles in ABC's award-winning comedy series Blackish and Girlfriends for her role as Rainbow

Johnson in Blackish as a comedic leading actress. Ross won the Golden Globe Award in 2017 as well as

nine NAACP image awards. She was nominated for five Emmys and two critics choice awards.

Ross is the CEO and founder of Pattern, a hair care brand for the curly, coily, and tight textured

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