From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 235. Today's show is brought to you by Fresh Books, Hero, and Lunar Display.

My name is Mike Hurley, and I am joined by Jason Snow.

Hi Jason Snow.

I'm Mike Hurley. How are you enjoying my country?

I'm in Chicago, Illinois right now. We'll talk about why in a minute because right now nobody cares about that because all they want is our hashtag snow talk question which this week comes from Jonathan and Jonathan wants to know

to know Jason when you make cereal do you put the cereal in the

bowl first or the milk in the bowl first?

This is a weird question which is only appropriate I suppose so thank you Jonathan.

Serial first, then milk because you need to use the cereal to gauge how much milk.

And if you put the cereal on the milk, the cereal just floats on the milk and it doesn't tell you

anything.

I feel like what I'm about to say is the type of thing that you should never say,

but I think people that put milk in first on monsters.

Yeah, so I was going to say, I know that in England especially there is the great debate about tea about you do milk in first or not

Yeah, it's the same deal milk go milk always goes in afterwards. Yeah, I usually put the milk later. You got to use what's in the mug or the cup as the way to judge how much milk is required. Yeah. It's simple. Right because you can then add more more milk until it reaches the level.

If you put the milk in first and pour the cereal in, the milk's going to spill out of the bowl,

right? Because the cereal lines in the milk and spills everywhere.

It could, or it's just going to float on top of the milk and then what have you done?

You've just got cereal that you have to dig through to get to the milk.

The idea there is the milk gets poured over the cereal and it helps coat the cereal in the milk.

Exactly.

So it distributes the milk a little more widely and then you can start.

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