Hello Ricky. How's it going? Hey, good. How's it going? Yeah, good. So question. Yes.

I'm ready. Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready. Wait, wait. Let me make sure both feet are on the floor.

I'm ready. What are dreams for? And I mean, do they provide a sort of medical or evolutionary advantage?

Or are they just a byproduct of a living brain, which would be boring? So what are they?

What are they for? Are they for anything? I don't I don't I don't even use the

I can't think of the correct terminology to ask you that probably sounds like a dumb thing.

But you know, I mean, okay, I know what fingers are for. You know, I know what eyes are for. What are dreams for?

Dreams are for the same thing as fingers. You're just using them wrong.

They you hit it perfectly that the question, what are they for? Or are they just a byproduct?

Yeah. You know, the the technical word people use in philosophy. There isn't epiphenomenon. Yeah.

They're not doing anything. They're just associated with something that's doing something. Right.

I don't think we know really. I mean, we know that certain good and necessary things happen during

REM sleep, which is generally associated with dreaming. That's not the only stage of sleep where we have dreams.

But there seems to be a several things going on. At least there's a process of memory consolidation that happens during REM.

So if REM sleep is disrupted a lot, your memory certainly suffers, but that's not so is it.

So is it there so you could you say that it's the brain getting work done that it can't do when you're conscious.

Because it's you're using it for other things and it goes right is asleep.

Let's do this stuff. Let's stock take. Let's put let's let's.

Is it like putting a kid's toys away when he's asleep? Is it I can't grasp what you mean by how do they consolidate memories?

Where the memories go? Is it like putting it away in a drawer? I you're going to have to use a lot of metaphor for me.

I want to go back to the distinction you made quite naturally the beginning. Whether they're the dream experience itself is doing something or whether it's just a byproduct of the

thing that's doing something and that that I don't think we know it's either the there's a remaining question.

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