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Pleasure to meet you.

It's my pleasure, thank you.

I'm a huge fan, dude.

I've been watching your work for so long, and I've always had so many questions about how a person like you becomes a person like you, how you become the preeminent documentarian of our time. I mean, you have so much work out there. It's really extraordinary. And all of it on PBS, right? Right, all of it, all of it. Which is also extraordinary. You know, it's the

public broadcasting service. It's the Declaration of Independence applied to communications, just as

the National Parks, you could say, was the Declaration of Independence applied to the landscape,

being like manifestations of really American things. It may not seem obvious to us, but it seemed obvious to me that that's where I should go. So I had lots of, you know, I headed for the hills out of New York, you know, 46 years ago because I thought I was taking a vow of anonymity and poverty to do this stuff. And I lived in the same house that I've lived in since they're in the same bedroom for 46 years in this tiny little village in New Hampshire. And I've lived in the same house that I've lived in since there, in the same bedroom for

46 years in this tiny little village in New Hampshire. And when the first film was nominated

for an Academy Award, that was a film called Brooklyn Bridge. Everybody said, oh, you're coming

back to New York, you're going to L.A. and I said, you know, I'm staying here. It's so labor

intensive. And I can sit here in front of you and tell you that every single

one of my films is a director's cut. I'm not going to sit here and give you an excuse. Well, that one,

they wouldn't let me do this or they didn't give me this amount of time. And so I could with the

reputation I have go into a streaming service or a premium cable and say, I need $30 million

to do a history of the Vietnam War. And they'd give it to me. But they wouldn't, they wouldn't

give me the 10 and a half years it took me to take. You see what I mean? It's the time.

It's the time. And the ability to marinate the ideas to do the deep dive into the scholarship

to triangulate the various scholarships,

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