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Well, it's great to finally physically meet you face-to-face, man.

It's an absolute honor, and I love your show so much.

I'm a super fan, so this is surreal. Well, I love your show too.

So I've been binging. I've been watching so many episodes ever since we talked. I've seen

them before, but I mean, I've been really binging getting ready for the show. I don't know what to

say that. How did you get so deep down the rabbit hole? Like what made you want to dedicate so much time on this, this particular UAP, UFO, you know, lost technology subject? I was working at Peter Thiel's family office in L.A. and part of the job was like kind of traditional venture investing,

so like investing in startups. And then part of it was looping in interesting thinkers to the office.

And we'd like host events and discussions. And I ended up meeting a lot of really interesting

people, not just in UFOs or secret technology, like religion and politics and economics and like all sorts of topics.

Were you there when he brought in the guy, oh, fuck, what is his name?

I know what you're going to say.

Eric von Dan again.

Yes.

I suggested that you come because I was like, Joe is going to be really into this and he weren't that into it.

But that's okay. I was into it. I to be really into this and he weren't that into it but that's

okay I was into it I just think that he just makes some leaps I agree that are kind of silly I agree

with that although I think there's a lot yeah I think he like crosses the T and dots the I where

you there is no dot or cross or whatever but I do think there's some

interesting preliminary evidence around people from the stars across disparate cultures and you just

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