Porn Free Radio episode 233. On today's show, it's another epic podcast crossover episode,

this time with the guys from Pure Desire, Trevor Windsor and Nick Stumbo. Now, they join me today

on Porn Free Radio, and we're also going to release this on the Pure Desire podcast. Now, we

recorded this conversation about

eight weeks ago before the coronavirus pandemic really took root here in America. So we don't

really talk about it. But what we do talk about is some of our stories and journeys,

um, letting go of porn. And we talk about the different, uh, ministries and stuff we do to help guys.

And they get into a little bit about what Pure Desire does.

And specifically, their mission to serve the local church and they provide a great program

called the Seven Pillars program.

If you haven't heard about it, it's definitely worth going to their website

and looking up. And they're doing a lot of online stuff now, obviously, after some of these

challenges with the pandemic. So it's a great conversation. We'll get to it in just a minute.

But first, I want to give a quick shout out to my new sponsor, BetterHelp. Now, I mentioned this the last

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