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Money For Couples with Ramit Sethi

233. “I save while she spends on vacations. Is this fair?”

Money For Couples with Ramit Sethi

Ramit Sethi

Relationships, Society & Culture, Investing, Business

4.63.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Samantha (36) and Kevin (41) have been together for seven years, but their financial lives couldn’t look more different. He’s a high earner with $800,000 in investments and a paid-down mortgage. She’s still carrying student loans, car payments, and lingering shame about being “behind.” While Kevin saves methodically for the future, Samantha prefers to spend on experiences—especially travel—leaving him questioning whether their financial priorities will ever align. Beneath the surface, neither of them has truly learned how to talk about money without shutting down. Can Ramit help them move from avoidance and resentment to shared goals and real plans for the future? A special thanks to Ultraspeaking, who worked with Samantha and Kevin to help them communicate more effectively as a couple. Ultraspeaking is the fastest and most effective way to become a great communicator. Learn more here. In this episode we uncover: • Why Samantha believes she’ll never be “financially good enough” for Kevin • How their shared avoidant tendencies have allowed them to avoid financial planning for years • How their unspoken expectations around “fairness” create tension • Samantha’s logic for not paying rent or mortgage • How Kevin’s quiet resentment built up after Samantha didn’t use the housing savings to pay down debt • The real cost of their “guilt-free” spending, including $15,000/year on vacations • Why Samantha still feels broke, despite earning $148,000 a year • Samantha’s fears about not meeting Kevin’s expectations in retirement • The stark contrast between their savings: Samantha has one month of expenses, Kevin has six • How Samantha inherited a “spend it if you have it” mindset from her parents • Kevin’s fear of loss from divorce and why he avoids fully committing financially • The role of therapy in helping them rebuild communication and trust Chapters: (00:00:00) “I’ll never be financially good enough for Kevin” (00:13:39) “I feel like I have no say because he owns the house” (00:27:08) Ramit breaks down their numbers (00:37:44) “I still feel like I’m only making $50,000” (00:43:59) “Money burned a hole in my pocket” (01:03:09) “That’s the bed I made and I will lie in it” (01:08:25) “Closing doors is hard…but staying stuck is harder” (01:15:59) “It’s not about catching up — it’s about building together” (01:37:50) Where are they now? Samantha and Kevin’s follow-ups This episode is brought to you by: NetSuite | Download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning at https://netsuite.com/ramit Fabric by Gerber Life | Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at https://meetfabric.com/ramit Gelt | Book a tax consultation with Gelt at https://joingelt.com/ramit. As a member of my community, you can skip the waitlist DeleteMe | If you want to get your personal information removed from the web, go to https://joindeleteme.com/ramit for 20% off Facet | Facet is waiving their $250 enrollment fee for new annual members, and for my audience, Facet is offering $300 into your brokerage account if you invest and maintain $5,000 within your first 90 days. Head to https://facet.com/ramit to learn more about which membership option is best for you Links mentioned in this episode • If you want help with your finances, join my Money Coaching program at https://iwt.com/moneycoaching Connect with Ramit • Get my new book, Money For Couples • Get Money Coaching with Ramit • Download the Conscious Spending Plan • Listen to my book—now on Audible • Get my New York Times best-selling book • Get my no-numbers journal • Other episodes • Instagram • Twitter • YouTube If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here.

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0:00.0

When I help people think about their rich lives, the main thing I often say is get more specific.

0:05.8

People say, I want to travel more. Okay, this is your rich life. Get more specific. Are we talking

0:10.1

about a month-long honeymoon to Europe? Are we going to Disneyland for three days? Are we going

0:14.9

on a trip to Bhutan? Get more specific. When you're on a vacation, who are you bringing? Where are you staying? Are you

0:22.1

eating anything in particular? These are all examples of things that my students in my money

0:28.6

coaching program have done as part of their rich lives. I want to share the specifics of how other

0:35.8

people are spending their money in amazing ways

0:38.8

and saving and investing so that you can finally get unstuck. In the program, you get access

0:45.4

to a monthly money call where I dive into specific different topics, like how to build your

0:50.6

rich life, how to break down conscious spending plans, and then I answer your questions live.

0:55.7

You also get access to the entire library of past calls,

0:59.8

including how to spend money to create magical travel experiences,

1:04.3

how to buy back your time,

1:06.4

and how to find an extra $1,000 per month.

1:09.7

We have tons of virtual events coming up every month in

1:12.4

money coaching, and you can join right now at IWT.com slash money coaching. That's IWT.com

1:19.9

slash money coaching to instantly become a member right now. I just don't feel like a good or worthy

1:26.5

partner. What is stopping you from changing the situation that you are in?

1:31.8

I don't really want to stop going on vacations. That's an honest answer. It feels more important that we have the experience than I have the money.

1:40.6

One of you has $4,000 a month to do whatever you want with the other has $1,100.

1:46.6

Seems like it could be a problem. I don't mind paying more for some of the vacations if that

1:51.1

money actually goes towards the debt and not towards hobbies or animals. You're making tons of

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