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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2311 - Jeremie & Edouard Harris

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.6228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 169 minutes

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Jeremie Harris is the CEO and Edouard Harris the CTO of Gladstone AI, a company dedicated to promoting the responsible development and adoption of artificial intelligence. https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Joe Rogan podcast checking out.

0:04.0

The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06.1

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

0:12.2

All right.

0:12.9

So if there's a doomsday clock for AI and where we're fucked, what time is it?

0:19.6

If midnight is, we're fucked. We're getting

0:21.5

right into it. You're not even going to ask us what we had for breakfast.

0:24.6

No, no, no, no, no, no.

0:26.6

Jesus. Okay. Let's get freaked out. Well, okay, so there's one, um, without speaking to, like,

0:32.6

the fucking tombstay dimension right up the gate, There's a question about like where are we at in terms of AI capabilities right now

0:39.1

and what do those timelines look like?

0:40.7

Right.

0:41.1

There's a bunch of disagreement.

0:42.6

One of the most concrete pieces of evidence that we have recently came out of a lab,

0:47.7

an AI kind of evaluation lab called meter.

0:50.7

And they put together this test.

0:52.6

Basically, it's like you ask the question, pick a task

0:56.6

that takes a certain amount of time, like an hour, it takes like a human a certain amount of time,

1:02.0

and then see like how likely the best AI system is to solve for that task. Then try a longer

1:08.4

task. See like a 10-hour task. can it do that one? And so right now,

1:11.7

what they're finding is when it comes to AI research itself, so basically, like, automate the

1:17.2

work of an AI researcher, you're hitting 50% success rates for these AI systems for tasks that take

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