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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#231 — Crossing the Abyss

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with General Stanley McChrystal and Chris Fussell about the radicalization of the far Right under Trump. They discuss the events of January 6, 2021, the behavior of the Capitol police, the history of white supremacy in the US, the effect of banning extremists from social media, the logic of insurgency, the consequence of public lies, what should happen to Trump and his enablers, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast.

0:23.6

This is Sam Harris.

0:26.4

I've got a fair amount of pushback which to my eye rests on a misunderstanding.

0:39.9

I'm slightly embarrassed that I didn't see the grounds for this misunderstanding when

0:44.4

I recorded the last podcast.

0:46.6

But it really does seem like a misunderstanding.

0:49.1

So let me clear this up.

0:51.1

I've gotten a fair amount of grief for my claim that the police response at the Capitol

0:58.6

would not have been much different.

1:01.0

Had that been a BLM protest that became a siege.

1:06.6

I was pushing back against the claim that the behavior of the cops at the Capitol was

1:11.7

a sign of white supremacy, white privilege.

1:15.4

You know, the general racializing of the interpretation of the failure to protect the

1:19.7

Capitol, which was happening everywhere and you know, from Biden on down.

1:26.2

And I stand by everything I said there, but I didn't recognize that this concept of

1:31.1

police response was open to two meanings.

1:37.5

And many people took it to mean something that I would call police presence.

1:43.9

Other than the behavior of the cops who were actually there, many people alleged that there

1:49.8

simply would have been more cops there had this been a BLM protest.

1:54.4

And that the fact that there weren't is a sign of racism.

1:59.2

Racism because they were assuming that white people would be well behaved and they would

2:05.2

have assumed that black people would have gone mad and attacked the Capitol.

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