#230 Tim Gordon’s Strawman Crusade for “Masculinity”
Shameless Popery
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🗓️ 3 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, I'm |
| 0:01.4 | Dr. Heshmus Popry. I'm Joe Heschmire, and I want to especially welcome Tim Gordon |
| 0:03.9 | fan. So if you're looking for the episode that Tim Gordon and Joe Enders recently critiqued on their live stream yesterday, I'm going to link to it at the end and in the description, but I have to warn you if you watch it, you might realize it doesn't say anything like what they falsely claim it said, and that those guys are just using clickbait to draw attention to themselves. Now, you might not agree with everything I or Pius C-11 say in the episode, |
| 0:24.4 | but I don't think... and that those guys are just using clickbait to draw attention to themselves. Now, you might not agree with everything I or Pius C-11 say in the episode, |
| 0:24.4 | but I don't think you can possibly come out with a take as bad as the kind of takes that they offered. |
| 0:29.2 | For example, Tim and Joe claimed that I'm being dishonest or at least sloppy |
| 0:32.8 | by not quoting the rest of Cassidy Canoeby paragraph 27 in my original episode. |
| 0:37.6 | This is why I want to build off of this. |
| 0:39.5 | This is why I'm I'm skeptical that Joe had bad, bad intentions going into this because all he has to do is read on in the same paragraph. |
| 0:52.2 | Right. |
| 0:52.5 | And it says, but it forbids that exaggerated liberty, which cares not for the good of the |
| 0:57.3 | family, it forbids that in this body, which is the family, the heart be separated from the head |
| 1:02.4 | to the great detriment of the whole body and the proximate danger of ruin. |
| 1:07.0 | For if man is the head, the woman is the heart. And as he occupies the chief place in ruling, |
| 1:14.1 | the chief place in ruling, so she may and ought to claim for herself the chief place in love. |
| 1:22.7 | This is clearly rebuking his own argument. He specifically took one paragraph, or he took one sentence, |
| 1:30.5 | one group of sentences from paragraph 27 without finishing paragraph 27. And I don't know if you're |
| 1:37.3 | a poor researcher. I hope that, I hope, you know, I hope in all, I hope, let me just put it that way, that Joe Heschmire is this bad of a researcher. |
| 1:47.4 | Because I'm citing the same paragraph that you cited for the right reason comment, the one that you took out of context. |
| 1:54.2 | Which is an embarrassing take since if they'd actually researched enough to watch the video, |
| 1:59.0 | he'd know that I spent a good portion of the video |
| 2:01.0 | unpacking those exact lines. On the flip side, the fourth distortion that Pius warns against |
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