I could sit there and say, of course, I love this game.

I would love another opportunity to win a Super Bowl.

We got there in 16 and unfortunately,

pissed down our leg, which was tough, right?

That was a tough, tough loss.

That said, it was one of those kicks in the knees that

helped me grow in certain ways.

And now I was bracken.

Welcome back to the Jermon podcast episode 230.

Training camp opened for all 32 NFL teams this week.

So I tracked down somebody who ran one of those

franchises for over a decade.

In fact, my guess this week was the NFL executive of the year

twice, a two time Super Bowl champ.

And he spent a dozen years as GM of the Atlanta Falcons.

By now, you have probably figured it out.

But my guess this week is Thomas Demetroff.

And he doesn't just have a fast ending NFL career

to discuss today.

He's got a brand new podcast, the GM journey where he rides

across the country in his RV to interview current GMs.

In other words, we've got lots to talk about.

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