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Journey Through Time

23. The Gun Myth That Shaped A Nation (Ep 1)

Journey Through Time

Goalhanger

History

4.3595 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

How does the history of the National Rifle Association explain how the pro-gun lobby got such a stranglehold on modern US politics? Was the United States always a firearm-loving nation? How did race and class shape early American gun laws?  Join David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell as they delve into the first chapter in the history of America’s National Rifle Association. Email: journeythroughtime@goalhanger.com  X: @ThroughTimePod Blue Sky: @ThroughTimePod Instagram: @ThroughTimePod Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Last week, some Texans celebrated their state's open carry law by bringing their long guns into fast food restaurants.

0:57.0

A National Rifle Association, NRA staffer, called this stunt downright weird.

1:03.0

But the NRA's chief lobbyist later apologized to the rifleman.

1:08.0

In 1934, the NRA President Carl Frederick said during congressional testimony

1:13.6

on a bill to regulate sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, I have never believed in the general

1:20.0

practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the promiscuous toting of guns. I think

1:26.3

it should be sharply restricted and only under licences.

1:30.8

That's a passage from a newspaper report from 2014, commenting on the fact that the NRA,

1:37.4

the National Rifle Association of the United States, which most people around the world

1:41.9

associate with support for gun rights has a long history

1:46.0

of supporting gun controls. And even as recently as 2014, a staffer in the NRA could make a

1:53.1

statement like that, condemning people for bringing guns into a restaurant. I'm David Ola Shogga,

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