From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode number 23.

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protection from viruses and spam and stamps.com postage on demand my name is Mike Herr and Stamp it going. Very well sir. Where are you? Are you in a submarine? Are you on a plane? I am speaking to you from a from a

undisclosed location in the Greater Los Angeles area. I'm down here with my in-laws with my with my family and

we're driving back home tomorrow. So but today is even though today is a

holiday in the United States Mike it. It's President's Day.

But I'm here because it's upgrade and upgrade waits for no one.

Happy President to you.

Thank you. Pick your favorite. Who's your favorite president?

I mean, I think the only one that I have any opinion about is the current president.

Interesting. Like do you know of other presidents? Yeah yeah I know of them but like of the

presidents that I remember like really in my lifetime I have and like I'm properly truly aware of I have the

choice of George Bush and Barack Obama so you know let's say the safe answer is Abraham Lincoln just say Abraham Lincoln and will be good well I my reasoning like for outside kind of not being directly affected by American politics. I would go with

Barak because he his like he's term into office like like coming into office was like historical right first like

non-white president and then also he I don know, there's something about him that like from again a non-political thing is kind of cool. He does some cool things.

So like to a to a Brit like someone who's not affected by him as much is fun to watch him do cool things

But there you go. Yeah, all right fair enough. We would have also accepted any of the other presidents, but at least you identified a precedent.

That's good. I don't know who my favorite prime minister. Well, we'll go with Churchill. How about that?

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