Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gaillan. Today I'm joined by

Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project, an author of It Was All Alive, Stuart Stevens.

Stuart, welcome back to the show. Great to be here. Thanks for asking.

And also joining me today is the Executive Director of the Lincoln Project, Fred Wilman.

Fred, good to have you back. I always look forward to it. Great to be back. So today we're

going to be talking about the recent wave of quote anti-riot legislation and the Texas

Legislature's attempt to get payback on some corporations who are taking political

stands they don't like. But first I want to talk about the long simmering fight between

Senator Mitch McConnell, Minority Leader of the United States Senate and former President

Donald Trump. And let me just say as an aside, if you don't indulge me. I see on Twitter

where I probably spend too much time and I see some in writing about this idea that

the people are calling him the former guy. As if if you mentioned the name Donald Trump

like Voldemort, he will suddenly appear in your house or like candy man from the old horror

movies like we should not forget his name. We should not not say his name. He is a bad guy

who did horrible things to the country and has not gone away. His name is Donald Trump and we

should not forget that. Anyway, so on Thursday, the Lincoln Project released a new ad called

Truthless that really highlights the dividing line here between what is I guess what we

would have called the establishment piece of the party and the Magus slash Trump wing of

the party. All of it really rooted in who will control the flow of money to Republican

candidates and consultants ahead of the 2022 election campaign. So why don't we listen to

that and then I want to have a conversation about what all this means and why we did the ad.

Using money off your name. Now everyone saying you're old, impotent and embarrassment

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