I'll count to 10 and if you join in at 5 one two three four five six six seven seven seven seven seven

seven eight eight nine nine ten yeah you're a 7, 8, 8, 9, 10.

Yeah, you're a good second behind.

Oh, am I really?

Yeah, but you always have been.

The...

We sound in sync to me, but I'm actually behind you in your ear is that right?

Of course we sound like that because that's like the whole point.

You do it you can't attend and I'll join in at five to show you.

One two three. and I'll join in at five to show you. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Oh, wow, 9, 10.

10.

Oh, wow, that's...

So to me, then I was saying it at the exact same time as you.

Well, that's really strange.

Why is that the case?

Why are we out of time, depending on who's talking?

I'll draw you a diagram later explain how it works.

All right.

I tell you what Tim as usual I have had an idea that is kind of the meta idea based on us trying to set up beforehand.

So for people who don't know, which is absolutely everyone in the world except us.

We were supposed to record this episode like 24 hours ago,

but for various reasons Tim couldn't get into the office where he wanted to do it

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