Yeah, there's a lot more that Democrats need to do, but when you look at who's speaking on the stage,

we look more like America than anything that you saw last week.

From the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, this is in the thick.

We're the podcast about politics and the race to the White House in 2016 that examines

this week's political news through a diverse lens with different perspectives.

And I'm your host Maria Inuocan.

Joining me on location on Radio Row.

At the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia is Jamil Smith. He's the senior national

correspondent at MTV News. Michelle Jawando is Vice President for Legal

Progress at the Center for American Progress and Julio Ricardo Ricardo Arella is the political editor for the Futura Media Group.

So let's get right to it.

First question for you, Jamil, because we saw you last week at the r and see just overall

general comparison tone passion for the candidate ideological divisions the

ideological division it is stark but I mean obviously I think just as stark as

stark as the ideological division is the energy in this building I mean the first

night of the RNC you had the building was half empty at 10 o'clock here

it was packed and ready to go and raring and the energies kept growing growing growing.

So what's interesting Jamil is that you're the first person that I've spoken to that said,

oh I'm feeling the passion, I'm feeling the passion and I'm feeling it here in this building. A lot of people have said

the passion at the RNC was much higher for their candidate, but I'm going to ask you,

Michelle, what's your sense?

I am surprised to hear you say that because one of the things

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