#23 England Rugby’s Future Captain

The Rugby Pod

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Sports, Comedy, Rugby

4.7 • 5.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Jim and Goodey are joined by England, Leicester & British & Irish Lion Ollie Chessum this week for a deep dive into his career. From the turning points that shaped his journey, welding on his day off at Nottingham to becoming a Lion, Ollie opens up on setbacks, standards, Lions chat, England ambitions, career-defining moments, Six Nations rivalries, plus a look ahead to what dreams still drive him, including whether the England captaincy is on the horizon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:41.6	Pod, pod, pod.
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0:47.9	We are here at Rugby HQ.
0:51.9	If you're English.
0:53.4	We're in Twicken, aren't? Mate, it's a great place to be. I am, well, it's okay. HQ, as you said, James, something different today. Not in studio. It's driving Honda's round. We are. We are driving about, and we are going to pick up one of my favourite players here is. Similar trajectory to myself. We know who it is, but just for the listeners and the viewers, they won't notice on setting the scene. One of my favourite players, similar trajectory to me. Scottish? Looks Scottish. Okay. Yeah, he looks more Scottish to me. He does, he does. Yeah, that's great. I've never thought about that. He definitely looks Scottish. Played at Nottingham. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Grafter. Grafter. Plays at Leicester. Yeah. Tick. He's a Leicester captain. Should have been. I was 18 captain. Yeah, Monday night football you did. Yeah. British and Irish Lion. You should have been. you should have been it should have been yeah
1:44.2	second row second row tick yeah hybrid tick we are picking up one of my favorite players
1:52.0	Lester captain future England captain maybe British and Irish lion Olly Chesham big red big red
1:59.4	did they call him big red I think so we'll find out what his nickname is. Here he is. Here he is. Here he is. Here he is. Let's get him in. Get in, mate. I am riding in the front. I'm pulling rank. Room for a little one, yeah. Room for a small one. So athletic. See you got in the car.
2:17.8	So easy.
2:18.5	So easy.
2:20.0	I can't believe you're only 25, Jess.
2:22.6	Like what you've achieved so far in your career, obviously British and Irish
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