Hi there, it's Matt here and welcome back to the podcast and the final episode in the series on Dreaming and this last episode continues our journey into the

wonderful and fascinating waters of lucid dreaming as you'll remember in the last episode we spoke about a

study that using MRI scanning proved this claim called lucid dreaming is not just a claim but a scientific truth.

Now in actual fact it wasn't the first study that helped scientists convince ourselves that lucid dreaming is real.

Because there were some earlier studies using the same type of eye movement

communication designs that have shown that individuals can

up on their command, for example, deliberately wake themselves up right after a signal from their eye movements

when they are in dream sleep to say look I'm going to wake myself up and

they can do that time and time again which is a fairly good demonstration

that they have control over intention so that's control of terminating the dream, but that doesn't really prove that people could do certain things in their dreams.

And perhaps one of the more pleasurable things that one could do in their dream would be engaging in sex and love-making with, how should I put this, with an obvious end outcome.

Oh, my goodness, I'm clearly awkward there, but I'll leave it in. And indeed, that is what lucid dreamers were able to do.

So once again, they fall asleep in the sleep laboratory and were recording their eye movements movements and their brain activity so we know that they have gone into REM sleep and they signal to us with their eye movements that they are now lucid and then they will show a different command with their eye movements that they are about to bring themselves to timed orgasm during their lucid dreamers.

How do you prove that? Well, I think the most during their

lucid dreamers.

How do you prove that?

Well, I think the most obvious overt case, of course, is in males,

and there an orgasm can be objectively verified using scientific measures by, let's just say, very brave scientists.

But I think you get the picture here. So these were some of the types of

experiments that they're amazing experiments aren't they? Absolutely fascinating.

That proved even before that remarkable study with the MRI. that

that lucid dreaming really does seem to be a real thing.

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