Ingram Smith, Bud Elliot, back again for another episode of the Noel cast.

Bud, let's just have a real kind of informal conversation for those of the people that have

listened to this podcast for four or five years.

This will be kind of similar to how it started.

No script, no notes, no plan, just a conversation as to what we witnessed on Saturday.

It'd be interested to see where this conversation goes.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

I certainly enjoyed what you did on the instant.

Our quick reaction podcast, certainly encourage people to go back and take a look at that.

But let's get into this conversation. I think a lot to learn or a lot that we did learn and a lot to talk about from Saturday.

Both good and bad and just want to thank Madison Social for making conversations like these possible. They're going to

potentially play a large role in in what people's Saturday plans are this

weekend with the 1230 game at NC State give you a chance to sample Madison Social Wears both before and after the game there.

So we always encourage people to keep them in mind.

They've been a great sponsor.

We're fortunate to have them.

But Bud, let's talk Clemson let's do talk Clemson and actually let's talk

Clemson first before we talk Florida State we were talking about before the podcast and I said, hold, let's just hit record so that we don't waste this good conversation.

Agram Clemson climbed up to the number one rating this week in the AP poll, jumping over Ohio State I think and they are as of this recording the number one team in the college ball playoff but do you think they are the best team in the playoff?

No, there's no way that I can watch Clemson, to be honest, we can think that they're the best team.

And I don't want this to sound like sour grapes.

It's not at all.

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