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The Brendan O'Neill Show

228: Michael Lind: The fight for working-class power

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

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🗓️ 4 May 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Author and academic Michael Lind returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show to talk about his latest book, Hell to Pay: How the Suppression of Wages is Destroying America. Michael and Brendan discuss the crisis afflicting the American working class, the disaster of deindustrialisation and how the woke cultural elite shores up the status quo.

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During the neoliberal era, we've had the creation in the US of a category called

1:12.6

the working work. In the United States about one out of every five households uses at least one

1:19.8

means tested welfare programme. Not 70% the majority of these households are headed by a full-time

1:27.7

worker. These are full-time workers who no matter how hard they work, how many hours they work,

1:34.0

they cannot support themselves, much less children or a caregiving spouse.

1:42.7

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me Brendan O'Neill and my special guest this

1:47.6

week, Michael Lind. Michael, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. So, Michael, last time you

1:53.0

were on the show we were talking about some of the ideas in your brilliant book The New Class War.

1:59.0

And this time I want to talk to you about your new book, which is published this week,

2:03.7

called Hell to Pay, how the suppression of wages is destroying America. This book is brimming with ideas

2:11.6

not only on how we got to the crisis of low pay where so many Americans are being underpaid,

2:17.5

but also in terms of the consequences that this crisis of wages has on people's lives,

2:23.6

on society, on demography, on identity, you argue that all those contemporary crises in America

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