Hello lovely humans I'm Wail Lee and you are listening to sex stories a

podcast where we discuss our most personal details learning from one another how to lead better laid lives as we make the world a sexier more loving place together.

Our guest today is a 33 year old white gender fluid trans polyish single person. They are into armpits, buts, cuddling all night and they

turned their dating profiles into a song which you can hear at the end of this episode, a consent

educator and intimacy coordinator from Los Angeles, California, welcome me a shactor!

Hi, thank you for having me.

I'm so excited.

So if you had to reach yourself on a sexual shame a meter with one being completely shameless and ten being so full of shame, where do you fall right now and when if ever does it fluctuate?

I think like a two or like a 1.5 or I guess one because zero is an option. I sometimes say stuff and then I'm like oh wow maybe that was like recently told my

parents that I was listening to not even about me I was listening to a

podcast about poop friends and you know the history of like shame around poop and then I was like I now

have friends who get paid to poop on other people and they were like okay and pushed me out

the door I was right, I have to remember like where I am.

Because that pretty much to your question, like, doesn't fluctuate.

I'm open to talking about this stuff kind of with anyone at any time and I have to kind of sometimes

remember my audience. Have you always been that way historically speaking or has it changed and is it related to your work and is it the same in your

personal life? I think as an adult I've pretty much always been this like once I

started having sex I've pretty much always been this way okay but I feel like I do what I do the way that I do it because I am this way.

One of my superpowers, I'd say, is like being able to have really complex conversations or like conversations

about really complicated things in a way that's like very simplified and

like approachable and accessible and I think that's apparent in like the way that I talk about a lot of consent stuff.

I write like I speak I don't use a lot of like flowery language and I'm able to take like pretty complex ideas and concepts and like

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