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episode 227 we're recording on Thursday, September 14th.

I'm Rebecca Shinsky here with Jeff O'Neill and we're coming to you from bookriot.com.

Well, you've been awake, you've been away, but still we're doing stories about

young adult

I cannot believe that this is still happening

you know I don't know much about PR and crisis management and all that stuff but I will tell you that this is not how it's done basically.

It's kind of wild right like it is that this so we're following up on Lonnie Serum and the handbook for

mortals the big conspiracy gaming of the New York Times best Seller list.

Yeah, I honestly can't believe this is still a story two weeks later.

It's the kind of thing that usually, you know, it happens and then it flames out quickly

because it only took 24 hours or less than that for YA Twitter to figure out what had happened and make

it public.

But even just this morning, Vox published a story, an explainer, the like complicated twistiness of the bestseller lists and how it works at the New York Times

versus how it works at Indie Bound versus how it works at USA Today and like this is a thing that has broken into like broader culture

beyond just publishing news, but Lonnie Serram, the author herself

who bought a jillion copies of her book and coordinated a jillion

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