If you would like to join me and Misha Gloverman, the conversation, communication,

negotiation, and conflict resolution expert who's been on the show many times.

If you'd like to join us for something we're calling the Conversation Lab, there's a link

in this show's description, also on the website, social media, all that stuff,

and that link will take you to a free registration page to get in for free our new workshop

that takes place on March 14th called the Conversation Lab. In this workshop,

Misha and I will work together and then you will watch him work as magic as he takes a real life

challenging situation from someone in the workshop, someone who's having a problem with someone

they care about. Misha will then go through all the different ways that you could engage in a more

meaningful conversation that actually resolves the conflict and gets you all the stuff you want out

of it. So if you have anything like that going on in your life or you just want to learn these skills

or if you just want to hang out, which is great, 200 people came to the last but we all hung out.

Go the link, sign up for it March 14th, the Conversation Lab. See you there.

Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast episode 227.

I had almost convinced myself that I was psychic based on playing Pokemon Girl.

That is Jane McGonagall, a futurist who designs games, alternate reality games.

I'm Jane McGonagall, I'm a game designer and a futurist and I am a research director at the

Institute for the Future in Palo Alto, California. The Institute for the Future is just that,

an institute that helps community leaders and movement builders, small and large organizations

anyone create strategies for creating the futures that they want to live in.

And Jane McGonagall, our guest in this episode, creates alternate reality games in which

thousands of people across more than 30 countries and six continents take part in virtual worlds

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