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227: Giving Up Is Unforgivable

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🗓️ 15 March 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to argue against deporting Mahmoud Khalil, explain habeas corpus and whether the government had the right to detain him, and outline his 1st Amendment rights as a green card holder.  Then, the #Sisters tear into Trump’s executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie, detail how their rights to association and speech are being violated, and celebrate the lawyers who have stepped up to defend them.  They also discuss the conversion therapy case going to the Supreme Court and what it means for LGBTQ rights at a time when Trump is attempting to subvert our democracy.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to hashtag Sisters-in-law with Joyce fans, Barb McQuade, and me, Kimberly Atkins store.

0:17.3

Our sister Jill will be back next week and we miss her already. You know, we keep selling out of our

0:24.3

resistance t-shirts. So we have restocked. You can go to politicon.com slash merch to get your

0:32.8

resistance t-shirt. I'm wearing mine right now. I love it. I get compliments on it.

0:38.2

Can't attest.

0:39.7

And so you can get yours too.

0:42.3

Now we have a lot of show to get to.

0:45.2

So let's get to it.

0:46.9

This week we're going to discuss the unconstitutional, very likely illegal, most certainly

0:53.2

immoral effort by the Trump administration to disappear student activist Mahmoud Khalil,

1:01.6

Trump's continued attack on private sector lawyers that he has grievances with, and the Supreme Court taking up a case on conversion therapy,

1:11.7

and what that means for the fight to protect LGBTQ rights.

1:16.6

But before we get to all that, Joyce has some news.

1:21.3

What's happening, Joyce?

1:22.6

I do have news.

1:24.3

Yesterday, Penguin Random House announced the launch of my first book. So there was a lot of

1:31.2

excitement. I'm so grateful to everyone who pre-ordered the book. And as I'm learning, I don't know very

1:38.1

much about the book industry publishing, and I'm hoping Barb and Jill are going to educate me.

1:43.9

But apparently, pre-sells are very important.

1:46.8

So I will make that shameless request that you go to Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or even better

1:52.7

yet, your local bookseller.

1:54.7

And pre-order the book.

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