226. Suzanne Nossel on defending free speech for all, based on her book Dare to Speak

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Michael Shermer

Dialogue, Science, Reason, Michaelshermer, Natural Sciences, Skeptic

4.4 • 921 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2021

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Online trolls and fascist chat groups. Controversies over campus lectures. Cancel culture versus censorship. The daily hazards and debates surrounding free speech dominate headlines and fuel social media storms. In an era where one tweet can launch — or end — your career, and where free speech is often invoked as a principle but rarely understood, learning to maneuver the fast-changing, treacherous landscape of public discourse has never been more urgent. In Dare to Speak: Defending Free Speech for All, Suzanne Nossel, a leading voice in support of free expression, delivers a vital, necessary guide to maintaining democratic debate that is open, free-wheeling but at the same time respectful of the rich diversity of backgrounds and opinions in a changing country.

Shermer and Nossel discuss: private vs. government restrictions on speech; hate speech, libel, slander, compelled speech; incitement to violence and insurrection; cancel culture; social media censorship; the euphemism treadmill, and more…

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Michael Sherman Shower. Welcome to the Michael Sherman Show.
0:16.0	I'm your host Michael Sherman.
0:18.0	My guest today is Suzanne Nausle,
0:20.0	dare to speak defending free speech for all. She has quite the biography and this is one of the most
0:26.8	qualified people I think I've ever talked to. On this subject she's currently the
0:31.1	CEO of Penn America the the leading civil rights, human rights and
0:35.1	free expression organization. She's a leading voice on free expression issues in the United States
0:40.8	and globally, writing and being interviewed frequently for national and
0:44.7	international media outlets.
0:47.4	Her prior career spanned government service and leadership roles in the corporate and non-profit
0:51.9	sector. For example, she served as the
0:53.8	CEO of Human Rights Watch and Executive Director of Amnesty International
0:59.2	USA. During the first term of the Obama administration, Nossil served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for
1:06.4	international organizations where she led U.S. engagement in the United Nations and
1:11.6	Multilateral Institutions on human rights and humanitarian issues.
1:16.0	During the Clinton administration, Nausl was deputy to the U.S. Ambassador for U.S. Management and Reform at the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, where she was the
1:26.2	lead negotiator in settling U.S. arrears to the world body.
1:31.0	During her corporate career, Nausel served as vice president of
1:34.5	U.S. business development for Bertelsman and as vice president for
1:38.6	strategy and operations for the Wall Street Journal. Okay? In other words, she's huge. She's a Magnum
1:45.0	Cum-Lod graduate of both Harvard College and Harvard Law School. To say she's
1:49.7	qualified would be an understatement in her book and in our conversation we discuss to what
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